I guess I just got really tired of this lady spreading bad rummors and lies, she is not only a liar but also a very rude person, you will see this post on a Facebook page called Bi Rain please read the comments too, this is a translation to Spanish for my sisters who only speak Spanish PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE THIS WORDS OR HATE MESSAGES FOUND ON THIS PAGE OR THE WALL OF THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS PAGE.
A todas mis hermanas nubes aquí que le han dado Like a la página que está en el link abajo por favor no crean las noticias que se publican ya que no sólo estan llenas de odio sino que carecen de fundamentos. Aquí les dejo la traducción de lo que Terri, que es una cloud oficial explicó en la página.
This is the translation of the post and what Terri answered
POST
Bi Rain
23 de Julio
we keep on hearing about the DONATION thing. this is what we stand. DONT TRUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOTS OF WORDS AND THEY CANNOT ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTION. THEY ARE ONLY CATCHING YOUR ATTENTION AND GETTING YOUR TRUST. in our world today many company, agency and people are using the charitable institution and even artist name just to get money from other people for there own pocket. many are victims of email and internet scamming. you can check the news and internet for that. so BEWARE. if this people dont have link of the CHARITABLE INSTITUTION and YOU DONT HEAR THE WORDS DIRECTLY FROM THE MANAGEMENT AND THE ARTIST ITSELF. DONT TRUST THEM. SECURE YOUR MONEY AND HELP IN THE RIGHT WAY. HELP THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTRY AND YOU WILL BE SURE THAT YOUR MONEY IS SAFE AND YOUR HELPING THE REAL PEOPLE.
23 de Julio
Seguimos escuchando acerca de esta DONACIÓN, esta es nuestra posición: NO CONFIEN EN PERSONAS QUE USAN MUCHAS PALABRAS Y NO PUEDE RESPONDER UNA PREGUNTA SIMPLE. SÓLO BUSCAN SU ATENCIÓN Y OBTENER SU CONFIANZA. en nuestro mundo hoy compañías, agencias y gente está utilizando la institución de caridad e incluso el nombre de un artista para conseguir dinero de otras personas para su propio bolsillo. muchos son víctimas de estafas de correo electrónico y de Internet. usted puede consultar las noticias y el Internet para eso. así que TENER CUIDADO. si esta gente no tiene vínculo de la institución de caridad y usted no escucha las palabras DIRECTAMENTE DE LA GESTIÓN Y EL MISMO ARTISTA. NO CONFIE EN ELLOS. ASEGURE SU DINERO Y AYUDE EN LA FORMA CORRECTA. AYUDE A LAS PERSONAS EN SU PAIS Y USTED ESTARA SEGURO QUE SU DINERO ESTÁ A SALVO Y ESTÁ AYUDANDO A PERSONAS REALES.
ANSWER
Terri Robinson
Good grief.
Do any of you naysayers even belong to The Cloud's official website or Rain's official fan club, The Cloud? Do you even read what goes on there?
Well, I AM a member of his official fan club. And I AM a member of The Cloud's fan site too. And I do read what goes on there. Almost every day. I have been involved in many donation projects in the past with the people who are organizing the ticket donation project and I can tell you that these people are completely legitimate. I have never been cheated out of money by them, and my donations have always been properly applied to the projects that they have coordinated. Also, the coordinator of this project is Heidi Li, who is The Cloud's (Rain's official fan club's) overseas fan coordinator. Heidi also helped Rainy Entertainment with collecting money from many countries for the Remember Rain Diaries.
Heidi and the other fans who are organizing this particular project are fans who have been with Rain from the beginning of his career. These people deserve Clouds' respect and trust. So, for me to keep sitting here and continue watching everyone libel their names and reputations and to not say anything would be horrible, indeed.
The reason that the beneficiary of the ticket donations cannot be named yet is because one HASN'T BEEN CHOSEN YET. The details of who the tickets are going to exactly haven't been completely decided, because they have to know how much money they have and how many kids the money will support before they call up an organization and say, "Hey, we have some free tickets for your kids." Any person with any SENSE and with any experience with organizing events would KNOW that. Since a beneficiary hasn't been chosen yet, it's a little difficult to name one. That makes total sense to me.
FYI, the official recipient of the project will ultimately be The Cloud, or Rain's official fan club. The Cloud will be the one buying the tickets and veteran Clouds who run Rain's official fan club (The Cloud) will be organizing the event on the ground in Korea. However, since The Cloud is a volunteer organization, it always takes them some time to get things organized. The intent of contacting global Clouds ahead of The Cloud's own project (which is still being discussed and planned), was to get the project started earlier for us Clouds who don't live in Korea.
Why request our donations earlier? So we wouldn't miss the chance to contribute. Whenever The Cloud decides to do something at the last minute and gives everyone last minute notice, we sometimes miss the deadline and miss the opportunity to participate. This is because we all live in different time zones. So, basically, some of the Clouds who are members of his official fan club wanted to get donations in early, so that we Global Clouds wouldn't miss the opportunity to participate in the project and be disappointed.
As soon as the money is collected and the donation window has been closed, Heidi is going to prepare a list of the donors by countries, and will then pass this list on to Rainy Entertainment to be delivered to Rain. ONLY THEN will veteran Korean clouds contact youth organizations and/or schools that might wish to participate.
So, yes, global fans' money is being collected IN ADVANCE. Since the project is just now being discussed at The Cloud, it is no shocker to me that Rainy Entertainment knows nothing about it. It was also supposed to be sort of a SURPRISE to RAINY ENTERTAINMENT and to RAIN. Oh well. I guess that idea is blown all to hell now, huh?
Yes, I agree with you. There are scammers all over the Internet. Yes, you should be careful. Very VERY careful. But when long-time fans of Rain that everyone in the Cloud community knows and loves says that a project is good and decent, then who are YOU to cast doubt on these lovely people who are simply trying to do good? Especially when everybody out there is trying like hell to tell you DIFFERENT? Ridiculous.
You new people interjecting yourselves into the Cloud community in such an ugly way are the ones that make ME suspicious as hell. What is your intent, really? How are your attempts to split up the global Cloud community and thwarting charitable projects created in their name doing an GOOD to anyone anywhere? Please do tell me.
Suspicion is good. Paranoia is for psychos.
Terri :-}
Do any of you naysayers even belong to The Cloud's official website or Rain's official fan club, The Cloud? Do you even read what goes on there?
Well, I AM a member of his official fan club. And I AM a member of The Cloud's fan site too. And I do read what goes on there. Almost every day. I have been involved in many donation projects in the past with the people who are organizing the ticket donation project and I can tell you that these people are completely legitimate. I have never been cheated out of money by them, and my donations have always been properly applied to the projects that they have coordinated. Also, the coordinator of this project is Heidi Li, who is The Cloud's (Rain's official fan club's) overseas fan coordinator. Heidi also helped Rainy Entertainment with collecting money from many countries for the Remember Rain Diaries.
Heidi and the other fans who are organizing this particular project are fans who have been with Rain from the beginning of his career. These people deserve Clouds' respect and trust. So, for me to keep sitting here and continue watching everyone libel their names and reputations and to not say anything would be horrible, indeed.
The reason that the beneficiary of the ticket donations cannot be named yet is because one HASN'T BEEN CHOSEN YET. The details of who the tickets are going to exactly haven't been completely decided, because they have to know how much money they have and how many kids the money will support before they call up an organization and say, "Hey, we have some free tickets for your kids." Any person with any SENSE and with any experience with organizing events would KNOW that. Since a beneficiary hasn't been chosen yet, it's a little difficult to name one. That makes total sense to me.
FYI, the official recipient of the project will ultimately be The Cloud, or Rain's official fan club. The Cloud will be the one buying the tickets and veteran Clouds who run Rain's official fan club (The Cloud) will be organizing the event on the ground in Korea. However, since The Cloud is a volunteer organization, it always takes them some time to get things organized. The intent of contacting global Clouds ahead of The Cloud's own project (which is still being discussed and planned), was to get the project started earlier for us Clouds who don't live in Korea.
Why request our donations earlier? So we wouldn't miss the chance to contribute. Whenever The Cloud decides to do something at the last minute and gives everyone last minute notice, we sometimes miss the deadline and miss the opportunity to participate. This is because we all live in different time zones. So, basically, some of the Clouds who are members of his official fan club wanted to get donations in early, so that we Global Clouds wouldn't miss the opportunity to participate in the project and be disappointed.
As soon as the money is collected and the donation window has been closed, Heidi is going to prepare a list of the donors by countries, and will then pass this list on to Rainy Entertainment to be delivered to Rain. ONLY THEN will veteran Korean clouds contact youth organizations and/or schools that might wish to participate.
So, yes, global fans' money is being collected IN ADVANCE. Since the project is just now being discussed at The Cloud, it is no shocker to me that Rainy Entertainment knows nothing about it. It was also supposed to be sort of a SURPRISE to RAINY ENTERTAINMENT and to RAIN. Oh well. I guess that idea is blown all to hell now, huh?
Yes, I agree with you. There are scammers all over the Internet. Yes, you should be careful. Very VERY careful. But when long-time fans of Rain that everyone in the Cloud community knows and loves says that a project is good and decent, then who are YOU to cast doubt on these lovely people who are simply trying to do good? Especially when everybody out there is trying like hell to tell you DIFFERENT? Ridiculous.
You new people interjecting yourselves into the Cloud community in such an ugly way are the ones that make ME suspicious as hell. What is your intent, really? How are your attempts to split up the global Cloud community and thwarting charitable projects created in their name doing an GOOD to anyone anywhere? Please do tell me.
Suspicion is good. Paranoia is for psychos.
Terri :-}
Esto es increible.
¿Alguna de ustedes detractores siquiera pertenecen a la página web oficial The Cloud o al club de fans de Rain oficial, The Cloud? ¿Por lo menos leen lo que está pasando allí?.
Bueno, yo soy miembro de su club de fans oficial. Y yo soy un miembro del sitio de fans The Cloud también. Y leo lo que sucede allí. Casi todos los días. He estado involucrada en muchos proyectos de donación en el pasado con las personas que están organizando el proyecto de donación de entradas y le puedo decir que estas personas son totalmente legítimas. Nunca he sido engañada por dinero por ellas, y mis donaciones siempre han sido debidamente aplicadas a los proyectos que ellas han coordinado. Por otra parte, la coordinadora de este proyecto es Heidi Li, quien es la coordinadora de de fans extranjeras de The Cloud (club oficial de fans de Rain). Heidi también ayudó a Rainy Entertainment con la recolección de dinero de muchos países para los diarios de Remember Rain.
Heidi y los otros fans que están organizando este proyecto en particular son los fans que han estado con Rain desde el comienzo de su carrera. Estas personas merecen respeto y la confianza de las nubes. Por lo tanto, quedarme aquí sentada y seguir viendo como difaman sus nombres y reputaciones, y no decir nada sería horrible, por cierto.
La razón de que el beneficiario de las donaciones de entradas no puede ser nombrado se debe a que UNO NO HA SIDO SELECCIONADO TODAVIA. Los detalles de a quien van a ir las entradas exactamente no ha sido completamente decidido, porque tienen que saber cuánto dinero tendrán y cuántos niños el dinero apoyará antes de llamar a una organización y decir: "Hey, tenemos algunas entradas gratis para sus niños ". Cualquier persona con sentido común y con alguna experiencia con la organización de eventos lo sabría. Puesto que un beneficiario no ha sido elegido, es un poco difícil nombrar a uno. Eso tiene todo el sentido para mí.
Para su información, el destinatario oficial del proyecto será en última instancia The Cloud, o club de fans oficial de Rain. The Cloud comprará las entradas y las nubes veteranas que manejan el club oficial de fans de Rain (The Cloud) organizaran el evento en la tierra de Corea. Sin embargo, desde The Cloud es una organización de voluntarios, siempre les toma algún tiempo organizar las cosas. La intención de ponerse en contacto con las nubes globales, por adelantado de su propio proyecto de The Cloud (que todavía está siendo organizado y planeado), era conseguir que el proyecto comenzara antes para nosotras las nubes que no vivimos en Corea.
¿Por qué solicitar las donaciones antes? Así no pierdemos la oportunidad de contribuir. Cuando The Cloud decide hacer algo en el último minuto y da aviso a todos a última hora, a veces se nos pasa la fecha límite y perdemos la oportunidad de participar. Esto es así porque todos vivimos en diferentes zonas horarias. Así que, básicamente, algunas de las nubes que son miembros de su club de fans oficial querian hacer llegar las donaciones temprano, para que nosotras, las nubes globales no perdamos la oportunidad de participar en el proyecto y quedar decepcionadas.
Tan pronto el dinero se recoga y el tiempo de donación se haya cerrado, Heidi va a preparar una lista de los donantes de los países, y luego pasará la lista a Rainy Entertainment para que sea entregada a Rain. Sólo entonces, las nubes veteranas de Corea contactarán las organizaciones juveniles y/o escuelas, que podrían desear participar.
Así que, sí, el dinero de las fans globales se cobra por anticipado. Dado que el proyecto está ahora siendo organizado por The Cloud, no es sorpresa para mí que Rainy Entertainment no sepa nada al respecto. Se suponía que iba también a ser una especie de sorpresa para Rainy Entertainment y Rain. Oh, bueno. Supongo que esa idea se hido al infierno ahora ¿no?.
Sí, estoy de acuerdo contigo. Hay estafadores por todo el Internet. Sí, usted debe tener cuidado. Muy mucho cuidado. Sin embargo, cuando las fans de Rain desde hace mucho tiempo, que todo el mundo en la comunidad Cloud conoce y ama, dice que un proyecto es bueno y decente, entonces, quién es usted para poner en duda estas personas encantadoras que están simplemente tratando de hacer el bien? Sobre todo cuando todo el mundo allá afuera está tratando como el infierno para que usted diga lo contrario? Ridículo.
Usted, alguien nueva interponiéndose en la comunidad de Nubes de una manera tan fea es lo que me hacen sospechar mucho más. ¿Cuál es su intención, en realidad? ¿Por qué intentar dividir a la comunidad mundial de las nubes y frustrar los proyectos de caridad creados en su nombre para hacer un bien, en que lugar seria eso visto como bueno? Por favor, dígame.
La desconfianza es buena. La paranoia es de débiles mentales.
Terri : -}
Oh, son las mismas personas que organizaron ESTOS poyectos:
World Cloud and Good Neighbors Charity Project
Posted by: huhuhuhu @The Cloud English Talk Board, 9/12/11
Some of you may have remembered that we made a donation in the name of Rain’s World Clouds to Good Neighbors in September 2010 to commemorate Rain’s return to the TV screen via “The Fugitive, Plan B”. There had been positive media report about this.
What you may not know was that we had also invited 370 children from Good Neighbors various centres to the Adieu concert in Seoul at the end of 2010. We did that quietly at that time as time was short and people had just made their contributions.
Nubes Mundiales y Proyecto de Caridad Buenos Vecinos
Algunos de ustedes pueden haber recordado que hizo una donación en nombre de las nubes de Rain Mundiales y Buenos Vecinos en septiembre de 2010 para conmemorar el regreso de Rain a la pantalla de TV a través de "El fugitivo Plan B". Ha habido un informe positivo hecho por los medios de comunicación sobre esto.
Lo que no deben saber es que también habiamos invitado a 370 niños de diversos centros de Buenos Vecinos para el concierto Adiós en Seúl a finales de 2010. Lo hicimos en silencio en ese momento como el tiempo era corto y la gente acababa de hacer sus contribuciones.
FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS POSTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT REAL CLOUDS FEEL, WE BELIEVE IN THE WORK YOU DO IS AMAZING AND WE WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU. SINCE THIS PUBLICATION WAS MADE IT RECEIVED A LOT OF ANSWERS DEFENDING THIS WONDERFUL PROYECT!!! FIGHTING! PROUD OF ALL MY SISTERS CLOUDS!!!
hola terri gracias por tu ayuda en todas las informaciones que nos das. cariños. magi
ReplyDeleteSi muy agradecidas con terri y su informacion ;-) gracias por tu comentario
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